What is an Olde English Bulldogge?
What is the Olde’s average life span?
How often are your girls bred and until what age?
What happens to your “retired” girls?
Do you in-breed your dogs?
How much is a deposit? And how much are your puppies
priced at? Who gets first pick?
What age do we pick our pups and when do you release
your puppies?
What kind of payment do you accept?
Are your dogs/pups perfectly healthy with no
defects?
Why is your property off limits?
How can I see you dogs or pups?
If I cannot come see a pup how can I make a
purchase?
How do we know you aren’t a scam like all the
bulldog puppy scams going on?
How are pups released?
What if we have a problem with our puppies health
after we purchase it?
What if we can no longer take care of our puppy or
dog in the future?
Do you have a kennel permit or license?
What do you feed your dogs and pups?
What does the puppy come with upon pick-up at 8
weeks old?
Are your dogs registered with AKC?
Do you have pups or dogs ever euthanized?
Have your dogs ever attacked someone? Are they
vicious?
How much is your stud service? How do we go about
doing a stud service?
What if I get a stud service and I have un-healthy
pups?
Is our puppy ready to go out and play at the dog
parks when we pick him/her up?
Is it okay to take my pup out even without the
rabies shot?
How long have you been doing this?
Why do you breed Olde’s?
Are Olde’s lazy and dumb?
What is an Olde English Bulldogge?
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The Olde English Bulldogge is a re-make of the classic Bulldogge of the
1700-1800’s. Back when bull-baiting was a sport, the bulldogs were
much bigger and muscular, and once it was banned the dogs became
domesticated and eventually sized down with Pugs to give the flatter face
and curly tail. There is much more to the breed, please refer to the
IOEBA.net to learn all you need to know about this breed and its origin.
What is the Olde’s average life span? top of page
Olde’s average a 12 year life span (10-14 years)
How often are your girls bred and until what age? top of page
Our females are bred for the first time anywhere from 1 ½ years old to 2 ½
years old. If she is a healthy and well producing mother we will keep
breeding her for our program until she is approximately 4-6 years old. Our
girls are only mated once a year, if they are bred back to back then they
are given a longer break.
What happens to your “retired” girls? top of page
Our retired boys and girls are all fixed and placed in loving homes at NO
charge. WE make sure we spay/neuter them and find them only the best
possible home, typically where they are in-door and the only dog of the
household. We do an extensive check to make sure they are placed properly
and remain in only one home after retirement.
Do you in-breed your dogs? top of page
We use line-breeding (mating dogs with familiar ancestors, but not direct
in relation,) out-crossing (two dogs with no similarities in
ancestors/pedigree,) and in some rare cases we do in-breed (mating of to
closely related dogs, such as father to daughter, mother to son or sister
and brother.) Any breeding is done with close supervision and a
well-thought out plan. Our few in-bred litters have proven to be some of
our best quality pups. Please research these methods and understand that
they are common practices among most reputable breeders.
How much is a deposit? And how much are your
puppies priced at? Who gets first pick? top of page
Puppies range from $1,000 to $2,500 in some cases, all depends on age, sex,
bloodline and whether or not they will be fixed. We usually only discuss
prices to serious inquiries through the phone. If price is all that matters
then you might want to look elsewhere, because quality dogs are not
“cheap” and it takes a lot of overhead, work and time to be
able to provide such a great home to all of our dogs, especially the ones
on site. Keep in mind, we are lower in price then most other breeders and
still maintain above average quality.
Deposits are a flat $500 and the remaining balance is paid in full by 6
weeks of age and then puppy is chosen after full payment is received.
Picks are first come first serve based on deposits received. In some
cases pick 1 and 2 will be on hold for our program.
What age do we pick our pups and when do you
release your puppies? top of page
Pups are selected at 6 weeks old in order of deposit received, remaining
balance is also due at 6 weeks. At 8 weeks the pups are ready to be picked
up, but if it is being shipped we must wait until 9 weeks and another vet
exam with a health certificate for flying.
What kind of payment do you accept? top of page
We accept cash, money orders, personal checks, or direct wire transfers.
Puppies will not be released until all funds have cleared.
Are your dogs/pups perfectly healthy with no
defects? top of page
No breeder has perfect health achieved in their lines with no defects.
Defects and minor problems are common with breeding, it is what you do to
fix problems and whether or not you disclose them to customers. Breeding is
a science, but it is not exact. If we notice a certain breeding provides
lesser then quality pups, we do not mate them any longer. The main defect
we have had shown up is a minor eyelash issue, called Disitichiasis, and we
have since retired the female who was passing this defect down.
Bulldogs are also not known for having the best hips, but all our dogs
are relatively healthy and will live long without any concerns to their
hips. In one rare case we had a puppy with sever hip-dysplasia and we had
her re-homed. She is almost a year old and shows no negative affects of the
dysplasia. Any dog with a major or concerning disorder is retired, never
re-sold to other homes. All our pups go through a health check at 6 weeks,
and another one by the buyer when released, this is to do our best and try
to catch any problems early.
Don’t let this discourage you, our bulldogs are very healthy! But
it is our responsibility to let you know that buying ANY dog can have its
risks. We always work with customers who end up with a rare issue, but it
is very un-common to have a problem with our dogs.
Why is your property off limits? top of page
Our property used to be open to the public, but after much debate we
decided to stop that. A main reason is the law, having a seller’s
permit for a home business requires us to keep the property closed to the
public, the county wants to make sure we do not have excessive traffic,
especially if it might disturb our neighbors.
The Parvo-virus is very abundant in our area, and so for the safety and
well-being of our puppies we do not allow people to come on site and more
importantly handle the puppies. It is very common for people to stop by
other breeders’ sites, pounds, or even the retail pet stores, which
are all places that harbor disease and germs that we cannot have tracked
back hear. We are able to guarantee better health by keeping people off
site.
Theft is another big concern. With breeding comes the possibility of
being robbed, in many cases through home invasion, which is something we
surely want to avoid. We see the 6 dogs on site as family, but also
acknowledge they are an asset along with the puppies that we must be very
careful for.
We also only rent our property, so out of respect to our landlord we
must respect their property and home-owners insurance policies.
If this is a concern, there is not much more we can do to accommodate
our buyers. Like I say, this is mainly for the health and well-being of the
puppies. Feel free to call the IOEBA or our Vet to make sure we are a
reputable kennel.
How can I see you dogs or pups? top of page
Well, we have done a great job supplying pictures, videos and detailed
specs of our dogs. Puppies aren’t viewable in person due to the above
stated reasons. Back when our property was open, 1 litter could easily have
20-40 viewings, that’s 20-40 people you wouldn’t want handling
a puppy you just bought.
In some cases I am willing to bring a parent or both parents of the
litter for a view from my truck. They will not be able to be pet, played
with, or taken out of the truck. If pups are fully vaccinated there are
some cases where we can bring a puppy, but again we are strict with the no
handling rule.
If I cannot come see a pup how can I make a
purchase? top of page
We accept all forms of payment, I can easily meet up at a safe and
convenient location for both of us and take deposits and fill out needed
paperwork. You will get a deposit receipt for piece of mind of course.
You will be provided much info on the pups, along with many pictures to
pick from. We do our best to provide accurate pictures and videos of the
puppies to make it fairly easy to select your puppy, almost as if you are
there with them. You will be updated in pictures of the puppy bi-weekly as
he/she grows, and once you select your pup we will send some pictures
weekly to you to show off to family and friends.
We have no problem having these meetings at our Vet since I am their
almost every week.
How do we know you aren’t a scam like all the
bulldog puppy scams going on? top of page
We have a list of references on our References & Testimonials Page. We
are a registered kennel through the IOEBA, so they can surely verify we are
the real deal. The staff and Doctor at San Marcos Animal Medical Center
will always be able to verify I am an existing client, reputable breeder
and definitely not a scam business. We use the same Vet for all our
services and highly recommend them to our local customers.
How are pups released?
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After payment is received and puppy is ready for release, we meet at a safe
location for the two of us and proceed to release of puppy. I also offer a
pick-up at my vet with a health exam. An even better option is to meet at
your vet of choice and do an exchange there while I wait with you to make
sure the puppy gets a clean bill of health, this will be at your cost since
it is your choice of Vet. The contract requires you take the puppy to a vet
within 72 hours, so this will conveniently take care of that right at point
of purchase. All receipt paperwork is to be filled out and received by 6
weeks old. The contract (viewable through contracts link) will be filled
out by both parties along with necessary registry paperwork and the puppy
will exchange hands. If puppy is purchased after 8 weeks, a deposit will
either be made in person or online prior to release, then puppy will be
delivered either to your home or one of the stated options above. Puppy
must be paid in full before it is handed over to you.
What if we have a problem with our puppies health
after we purchase it? top of page
The first thing to any business relationship is communication. The moment
you find something you are not happy with, we ask that you let us know
immediately so we can work to remedy the situation. If a major health issue
shows up, we need to know immediately, for the sake of other dogs on
property and the dogs that are part of the program. If you have a puppy
with a genetic defect, we would want to know asap to make sure the litter
mates are not affected, and if it is a virus or sickness of some sort, we
also need to know to make sure no other dog is infected.
We make sure you are a client for life, most of our clients come back
for a second dog, and we have only been around since 2005, this proves a
lot. We always work to fix any problem and put ourselves in your shoes as a
purchaser and dog lover before we make a decision.
What if we can no longer take care of our puppy or
dog in the future? top of page
We DO NOT allow you to take your dog to the pound, shelter of humane
society! We were the breeder of that dog/pup, so we will take him/her back
at ANY time in their life. That pup/dog is our responsibility for life, and
I wouldn’t want them to take up space in any pound considering we
would have no problem finding them loving homes. We have yet to have a
return once the puppy bonds with the owners, but if it is to happen ever,
we typically would pay to spay/neuter the dog if it wasn’t already
done and re-home the dog/pup on the same criteria of our retirees.
Do you have a kennel permit or license? top of page
Based on where we live we are only required to be licensed with a Kennel
permit IF we keep 7 or more adults on site. We would love to have a kennel
permit, but un-fortunately the county has made it near impossible to get a
new one, you can only take over an existing permit. In order to have a
kennel permit you must pay a fee, which is not an issue, but it is the
$40,000 to $100,000 I would have to spend to make the required indoor and
sound proof kenneling system and get a major use permit. We are hoping to
buy an existing kennel within the next 5 years to expand our program, but
it is far in the future. For now we just stick with a rotation and keep
only 6 dogs here on site, typically our girls.
We are permitted to sell our puppies through the County of San Diego,
but our Seller’s Permit is limited to home business and requires we
have no business traffic on site. We have no problem supplying our
Seller’s Permit number or bringing it during delivery of puppies.
What do you feed your dogs and pups? top of page
We are a proud sponsor of Royal Canin and are a part of their Crown
Partners Breeder Program. We feed the adults Royal Canin MAXI Large Breed
Adult and feed the puppies Royal Canin MAXI Large Breed Puppy.
What does the puppy come with upon pick-up at 8
weeks old? top of page
We send the puppy home after he/she is bathed of course to bring home that
new puppy smell, lol. We will make sure the pup has the first 5 way shot at
6 weeks along with a de-worming, then another 5 or 7 way shot at 8 weeks
old, and if you are local you can come back at 10 weeks for the last shot,
a 7 way vaccine. We recommend one more de-worming once the dog is off site,
and other then that you can get the rabies done at 4-6 months old and
Bordatella if you chose to at the same time.
We also send you home with a puppy package, which includes a health
certificate/record keeper, temporary registration certificate, a nice Royal
Canin folder with a lot of great information for a new puppy owner and a
weeks worth of food too.
Are your dogs registered with AKC? top of page
No, AKC does not recognize the classic Olde English Bulldogge even though
it recognizes it’s un-healthy by product. We do have all of our dogs
registered through the International Olde English Bulldogge Association (www.IOEBA.net) in which we have a
registered Kennel. Some dogs are also papered through the Continental
Kennel Club (CKC) and National Bulldogge Association (NBA), but ALL dogs
can be registered with ALL 3 registries with a little time and money. If
you would like to have your pup registered through all three, just go onto
each of their sites and you will be able to find the form needed to
register your dogs with them. You will be required to supply a copy of one
other registry as proof and they will simply make duplicates and register
your dog with them too.
Do you have pups or dogs ever euthanized? top of page
That is a real rarity, and I have yet to do that. Most problems with pups
are very minor, so euthanization is not very common and typically not
needed unless it is a serious issue that is causing much pain and
suffering. Any defect found in our adults has been minor and just required
us to remove her from our program, but no euthanization. We love all our
dogs/pups and think they should all be given a chance, even if they will
surely be a money pit. We have never used them, but we do have a local
no-kill rescue organization that does a great job, and they would always be
a last resort before euthanization.
Have your dogs ever attacked someone? Are they
vicious? top of page
Absolutely NOT! Our dogs are family raised and have been around kids. Some
may be a bit timid, but never bite, even out of fear. Even in the scariest
moments, I have noticed them always take the flight, not the fight reflex.
We breed a whole lot for temperament, so aggressive or rogue dogs will never
be a part of our program.
How much is your stud service? How do we go about
doing a stud service? top of page
This is another one of those things that we typically only discuss with
serious inquiries through the phone, but for your info, we are not a cheap
provider of $200-$500 studs.
Our studs are proven, and range from $1,000 to $1,500 or 1-2 picks of
litter, whichever we decide to do. You can easily go get a $500 stud, but
you might only get your moneys worth. My stud fee GARANTEES a litter, along
with a guarantee that our half of the service is healthy and a proven
producer. Stud services can be very complicated, so please be wise in your
decision and educate yourself as much as possible before selecting a stud.
We provide all our pedigrees online to help you figure out which one of our
studs, if any, will be a good match for your girl.
In order for a stud service we usually need at least 72 hours notice to
make sure the stud is on site or attainable that day for a mating or AI. We
use a 3 rd party for AI’s and shipping of specimen, they are located
minutes from us and have over 25 years experience (www.CanineCryobank.com).
They deal with the packing and shipping directly to your veterinarian, feel
free check their site for more info.
On site matings are done 2 days apart, typically on day 7 and day 9 of
the girls heat, BUT we expect you to know your girl better than anyone and
know when they will ovulate. If that is something you don’t know, the
Canine Cryobank does low cost progesterone tests to see when your girl will
be ready for mating.
What if I get a stud service and I have un-healthy
pups? top of page
That is something that goes with breeding, you don’t always get a
great litter, and especially when adding another dog you don’t know.
Genetics is quite complicated and very scientific, sometime two good and
healthy producing dogs just may not be a good match together, even though
they produce well with other mates. We have done our research and have
dedicated a lot of time to our lines, so we know our boys are healthy
producers with minimal defects in their lines.
This is another type of customer service issue, if you think our male is
the reason your pups did not come out well, let us know and we will see
what we can do to remedy the situation, but keep in mind we have yet to
have any issues with our stud services, nor have they had issues providing
pups for other breeders we’ve worked with.
Is our puppy ready to go out and play at the dog
parks when we pick him/her up? top of page
NO!!!!!!!! We always recommend you wait until the puppy is ATLEAST 10 weeks
old and have had the last set of booster vaccines. It is near impossible to
tell exactly when your puppy has built its immunity, so we always recommend
a test by the vet to make sure the pup is fully immune to the main diseases
in your area. The canine Parvo Virus is common to these areas, and a very
deadly disease for puppies, so we recommend keeping your puppy away from
other dogs and places where un-vaccinated dogs may go, especially dog
parks. After 2 shots your pup is fairly safe, but we always recommend you
be 100% safe and wait until the last booster vaccine is give (at about 10
weeks old, and before rabies.)
Is it okay to take my pup out even without the
rabies shot? top of page
Yes, rabies is rare and your pup is not at risk to it unless it is bitten
by an infected dog, but make sure your pup is vaccinated for rabies by 4-6
months old.
How long have you been doing this? top of page
I have been breeding the Olde’s since 2005, but I have a lot of
experience with dogs and breeding since my family raised and bred German
Shepherds for many years in the late 80’s and early 90’s.
Why do you breed Olde’s? top of page
I love the Olde’s, enough to dedicate my life to being surrounded
around them and trying my best to better the overall quality of my lines. I
love the whole experience and the knowledge I have gained in the few years
I have been doing this. I get so much joy out of providing these great dogs
to other bulldog lovers and seeing how happy they are with their dog. They
truly are NOT just dogs, they become a part of your life, more like family,
and providing someone a permanent family member is feeling I cannot
describe.
Are Olde’s lazy and dumb? top of page
Absolutely not! Olde’s are definitely a little bull-headed and
stubborn, but they are definitely smart dogs and very active. They do
require a little extra training and attention though. The bulldogs can be
great pets, but with the bully breeds you always want to make sure you have
your dog socialized and taught to play well with other dogs, especially for
my bigger bloodlines. I always recommend basic puppy training such as the
ones at Petsmart for socialization and basic training, after that I highly
recommend routinely taking your dog our to dog parks and play dates to keep
them well behaved and socialized. Throwing the dog in the back yard and not
giving them much attention is exactly what causes problem dogs that
don’t behave and have aggression issues. A lot of love and attention
along with some strict rules is what is going to insure a well-behaved and
good dog.
